When you are setting up your system landscape for large and/or multiple applicat

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When you are setting up your system landscape for large and/or multiple application deployments, do you consider mainframe? If not, why not? If so, what factors are you considering.

If you take a real TCO look at large ERP and/or consolidated application landscapes, mainframe is actually quite cost-effective.

My own consultations have included recommendations for scale-up/mainframe/mid-size systems on some specific needs. Honestly, I've never had a customer take said recommendation, rather defaulting to countless scale-out VMs on Intel boxen (in non-trivial cost) and yet still to this day have system management and performance issues.

Curious your take on this. We need to remember that the virtual machines we manage (and apparently love in IT departments) today have been done for decades on mainframe. Most mid-size and mainframe shops have small fractions of support persons managing larger and more complex applications.

Your thoughts appreciated.

Explanation / Answer

It seems to me that you're doing more to express your opinion ("If you take a real TCO look at large ERP and/or consolidated application landscapes, mainframe is actually quite cost-effective.") than really ask a question. On that basis, I'm tempted to vote to close, but won't.

As for the question (to the extent there is one), I'm going to assume that by "mainframe", you mean something like an IBM z series machine, rather than (for example) one of the big Fujitsu SPARC boxes.

I think for many people, it's hard to recommend mainframes for a couple of reasons.

Every vendor has TCO numbers to "prove" their product is the best. Why should somebody trust numbers from IBM more than from Microsoft, Oracle, etc?
Even if a mainframe really would make sense, such a recommendation is unlikely to be taken seriously, and whoever made such a recommendation will often be treated as a pariah.
Even if the TCO would theoretically work out better in some respects, introducing machines with which existing staff are thoroughly unfamiliar would often be a mistake anyway.
Using a mainframe would often lose versatility in other ways. Just for example, an Intel box can easily run Windows Terminal Server to make Word and Excel available, which is a bit tougher to do with a mainframe.

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